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Evaluating a rounded bottom as a testable payoff structure

A pattern has an edge when average expected gain per play is not zero. This article treats a rounded-bottom as an objective sampling rule, bounds failure with a pattern-scaled stop-loss, and uses a trailing-stop to ask whether the historical-edge can survive live execution.

  • A trading pattern has an edge when average expected gain per play is not zero, and a useful setup is taken from the positive side of that imbalance.
  • When probabilities and payoffs are unknown, historical-edge is estimated by totaling net profit across comparable cases and dividing by the sum of notional bets.
  • A computer-definable rounded-bottom, a pattern-scaled stop-loss, and a trailing-stop exit make those cases comparable and make failure uniform.
  • A 2017 test of cup or rounded-bottom cases from 1982 to 2014 reported a mean profit factor of 0.166 and a 39% win rate. That figure is a historical-edge, not a live one.
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An edge is a nonzero expected gain

A trading game or pattern has an edge when average expected gain per play is not zero. A useful setup is one that can be taken from the positive side of that imbalance.

When outcome probabilities and payoffs are known, an edge can be computed directly as net profit divided by the sum of notional bets, as in a 15% coin-game example and an approximately 3.33% dice-game example. The notional-bet is the unit stake used to scale profit and loss so an edge can be expressed as expected return per unit risked.

When probabilities and payoffs are unknown, as with chart patterns, an edge is estimated from many historical cases or from simulation that totals net profit and divides by the sum of notional bets. That ratio is the historical-edge: the average net profit divided by the sum of notional bets across a large set of objectively defined historical pattern cases.

Define the cup before you sample it

A usable pattern definition must be specific enough to collect comparable cases. Computer-definable cup or rounded-bottom rules are preferred because they support objective sampling.

In this archive sense, a rounded-bottom is a cup or rounding-bottom price structure whose bullish implication is treated as a testable hypothesis rather than a visual story. Editorial note: without that specificity, later profit and loss figures mix unlike events and cannot be read as one payoff structure.

Bound failure, then let winners expand

Evaluating a rounded bottom requires a definite failure threshold, typically a stop-loss scaled to the pattern's dimensions, so losses are measured uniformly when the bullish implication fails. A stop-loss is a predefined invalidation level, scaled to the pattern, that marks failure and caps the loss when the setup does not do what it was supposed to do.

A trailing-stop is an exit that follows price after entry so winning outcomes can expand while remaining tied to the pattern's dimensions. The two exits turn the pattern into a payoff structure: bounded losses when the bullish implication fails, and larger wins only if price continues after entry.

What the historical sample measured

A 2017 historical test of cup or rounded-bottom bullish implications over 1982 to 2014 produced a mean profit factor of 0.166, interpreted as about $0.16 average profit per $1 notional bet.

In that same test, only 39% of trades were profitable, consistent with many small losses under an initial stop-loss and fewer but larger wins under a trailing stop.

The test's profit-and-loss measurement used a trailing stop that had to pass through the closing price, booked the exit at the exit bar's low, and included gaps beyond the trailing stop.

Editorial reading of theoretical-versus-real-edge

The theoretical-versus-real-edge is the gap between an edge estimated from historical pattern outcomes and the edge a trader actually captures in live execution.

Editorial interpretation: the archive shows a rounded-bottom can be written as a falsifiable payoff structure and then scored as a historical-edge. The close-through trailing-stop rule, the exit at the bar low, and the inclusion of gaps are part of that score. Whether a mean profit factor of 0.166 is large enough to survive those same frictions in real time is a live-execution question, not a result the archive settled.

Educational research material, not investment advice. Historical source context does not establish present-day performance.
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  2. 1995Cup-with-handle construction: confirm the cup, the handle, then the breakout
  3. 1995Cup-completion cheat before the handle breakout
  4. 1998Constructing rounded-bottom cups as testable entries
  5. 1999Rounded bottom landmarks, invalidation, and breakout rules
  6. 2003Constructing rounded bottoms, triangles, and pennants
  7. 2006A five-by-five grid that accepts or rejects a cup
  8. 2006NTRI and the 2005 bowl breakout case
  9. 2006Rounded-bottom screens, first-try breakouts, and Fibonacci retracements
  10. 2007Constructing rounded bottoms as multi-year bases
  11. 2011Early semi-cup construction from the left rim and base
  12. 2011Early rounded bottom recognition on a locked log-price grid
  13. 2013Rounded turns as slope-first trade hypotheses
  14. 2017Evaluating a rounded bottom as a testable payoff structure
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